Sun, 26 Aug 2007
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Here is a question i would like to ask? Is there a Sat Guru always alive on the earth plane?
Hear is a question i would like to ask? Is there
a Sat Guru always alive on the earth plane?
What does Kabir Sahib say about how we will know
him.?
Mohan
Posted 23:54
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11 comments
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There is always a Sat Guru on the earth plane.
In fact, the Sat Guru is on all the planes.For
the Sat Guru is in everyone and everything all
the time. There is no where that the Sat Guru is
not. Realization of the Sat Guru comes with
being true to ourselves all the time. Whether
anyone is looking or not. The conscious mind is
the means to this realization. It is the tool to
be used to "Mahay",or churn the thoughts such
that realization of the Sat Guru is achieved.
Thanks for the question
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in anuraag saagar?
There are certain physical marks and also
qualities, and in anuraag saagar it appears that
these have to be 'decipehered'. Quite honestly,
I think that the 16 sons are really qualities of
Sat Purush as well as Sat Guru.
I also remember mention that the Guru Power and
the Guru are 2 different 'things' and we must
not mix them up.
Maybe '...it comes and goes from moment to
moment....'.
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As far as I understand it, a Guru is always
there when a disciple is
ready. The Disciple holds the KEY for the
specifics of the Guru he or she is
destined to meet. This is regulated by the Law
of Karma. The 'Power' is ONE,
radiating through a suitable human pole to a
suitable recipient.e.g. like
suitable graduate teacher for a suitable class,
suitable subject etc. The
inner experience of Satlok can only be conveyed
to a disciple by the grace
of an assigned Guru from the the region of
Satlok. Naturally, there will be
other Gurus from Astral, Causal, Supra-Causal
etc. A Satguru's main interest
is the release of a soul from the bonds of all
Karmas. According to Satguru
Kabir Sahib, the Supreme is like the Ocean and a
Soul is like Water in a
container in the Ocean. The Water inside and
outside (though similar),
cannot meet unless the container (ego) is
broken. The container can only be
broken by a competent Guru who can work both
outside and inside and
accomplish the jpb in the shortest possible
time. Guru's Grace.....
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Utavaasi
It is said that the Sat guru is Ultavaasi. What
does this mean?
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Niwasi and Ultawasi
I thought that niwasi is like a son or daughter
and ultawasi is one who is one is neither. That
is, he belongs to no one, or is not limited by
blood relatives or other relations.
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Living truth
Yes! i know for certain that a Satguru is always present among us
all . If not this earth would have been destroyed by man already.
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Living truth
Yes! i know for certain that a Satguru is always present among us
all . If not this earth would have been destroyed by man already.
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Satguru is always precent
Satguru will be there always on this planet. As
per philosophy of Bijak exsistance of sadguru on
this univerce always evern if there is no
creation of nature. becose Satguru is not a
human body its a distinict consiousness which
come down on this earth as and when required...
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Satguru is the highest form of consciousness
I agree with Manish and Parbatee that Satguru is a
distinct form of consciousness that cannot be
contained only in human form. It is as Kabir Saheb
says "Mai to hoon biswaas me, Moko kaha doonde
bande, Mai to tere paas men"
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sat guru
Was Kabir the first teacher who coined the term
sat guru as different from Guru, in order to re-
establish the guru as the Ultimate teacher to
attain true realization, the guru being a
physical form? Does Kabir not make a distiction
between Sat Guru and Shabd. Where Shabd is
emmanating from God throughout creation and the
SatGuru being the pyhsical pole through which
that power works.
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Concept of Guru and Sat Guru
I think Saheb's statement on the distinction of
guru and Satguru makes sense. If we think of the
"inner vibrations of sound and light, these are
scientific concepts proven to be the actual state
of every nucleus. In Quantum Physics nothing is
considered solid but rather a degree of density of
vibrations. Similarly, I am sure other teachers,
Imams, Masters, Swamis, are all "guru" in the
sense that they are like more refined combination
of vibrations who can have a positive influence on
others. The higher the state of the guru, the
closer they are to that ultimate form of "Sat
Guru". As Saheb said above God is not a single
being away from creation, but is part and parcel
of the entire creation. That would make both
scientific and spiritual sense. As pure energy,
God cannot - not be a part of everything. It would
also make sense that a Satguru is one who has
experienced this highest state, and thus is at
once at one with God and the creation as well, and
can teach others how to experience that state.
It is said that both Kabir Saheb and Guru Nanak
were considered contemporaries. And both were
considered to be Sat Gurus. So may be it is
highly unlikely to have more than one realized
being at a time, but it is not impossible, not to
mention that such gurus do not consider themselves
to be two separate beings, but rather one in the
presence of God.
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